Dear All.......!!!
Good Evening, Hope you all are good, Thanks for the support that i'm receiving for maintaining this blog, wish this'll continue all time.
Recently i've received a common query from Mechie (Mech. Engineer / Project Engineer) and one of my colleague,
And i think some of us also will have the same, to address their query today i'm posting this here, this may be a basic post but i've taken some time to think over it and to make it best possible solution.
But before going to that there is some basic stuff, which need to be accepted by all those who are reading this post, or else there may be slightly misunderstanding erupted in-between.
What is a reactor ?
Reactor is a vessel having an agitator and other accessories which are intended for measuring and maintaining it in safe condition.
What are the operations that can be carried in a reactor ?
The main operation is reaction, apart from that it can be used for extraction, concentration, crystallization and many more.
What are the sub components of a reactor ?
The notable sub components of a reactor are condenser, collection receiver, safety valve, rupture disc, etc.
What is the main duty of a condenser ?
The main duty of a condenser is to condense the vapour, to deliver exactly the main purpose is to remove the latent heat of vapour. Apart from that the condenser will perform some unofficial duty by removing some of the sensible heat from the condensed liquid.
That's it....!!! Now lets begin the calculation.
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Lets consider a case where a 10 KL SS reactor is available and we need to select a condenser for that reactor.
Step - 1: Select a solvent having high volatility.
Step - 2: Calculate the maximum boil-up of the selected solvent.
Step - 3: Calculate the Condenser Capacity for that boil-up.
That's it ...!! your job is done.
Now, lets begin,
Step - 1: Solvent selection based on boiling point,
Below is the list of solvent and their boiling points [from my database],
Solvent Name | B.P. (°C) | Solvent Name | B.P. (°C) | |
(N N) Dimethy Amino ethyl Acrylate | 95 | Di Cyclo Hexyl Amine | 255 | |
(R)-Glycidyl Butyrate | 90 | Di Ethyl Oxalate | 186 | |
(S)-3-Chloro 1-Propanethiol | 144 | Di Isopropyl Adipate | 125 | |
1-(Trimethylsilyl)-1-Propyne | 95 | Di Isopropyl Ether | 67 | |
1,1,3,3-Tetramethoxy Propane | 183 | Di N-butyl Sebacate (Diester) | 349 | |
1,1,3,3-Tetramethyl Guanidine | 158 | DI Water (Acidified with HCl) | 100 | |
1,1-Dichloro-3,3-Dimethyl Butane | 146 | Dibenzyl Phosphite | 110 | |
1,2-Dibromoethane | 131 | Dibutyl Phthalate | 340 | |
1,2-Dimethoxyethane | 82 | Dicyclopentadiene | 170 | |
1,2-Dibromo Methane | 96 | Diethanolamine | 268 | |
1,3 - Difluoro Benzene | 82 | Diethyl Carbonate | 126 | |
1,4-Dimethyl Piperazine | 131 | Diethyl Ether | 34.6 | |
1,4-Dibromobutane (DBB) | 63 | Diethyl Ethoxymethylene Malonate | 278 | |
1,4-Dichloro Butane | 161 | Diethyl Malonate | 199 | |
1,4-dioxane | 101.3 | Diethyl Phthalate | 296 | |
1,6-Dibromohexane | 243 | Diethyl Sulphate | 208 | |
1,8-Diazabicyclo(5.4.0)undec-7-ene | 80 | Diethylamine | 55 | |
10-Undecenoyl Chloride | 120 | Diethylene Glycol | 244 | |
1-Acetopapthone | 302 | Diethyl-L-Tartarate | 280 | |
1-Aminopiperidine | 146 | Diisopropyl Amine | 84 | |
1-Bromo 2-Fluoro Benzene | 78 | Dimethoxyethane | 64.5 | |
1-Bromo 4-Fluoro Benzene | 150 | Dimethyl Carbonate | 90 | |
1-Bromo-2,4,6-Trifluorobenzene | 140.5 | Dimethyl Formamide | 153 | |
1-Bromo-2-Fluoroethane | 71 | Dimethyl Sulfoxide (DMSO) | 189 | |
1-Bromo-3,4,5-Trifluorobenzene | 47 | Dimethylsulfide | 37 | |
1-Bromo-3-Chloro Propane | 144 | Diphenyl Phosphine | 280 | |
1-Bromo-4-chloro Butane | 80 | Dowtherm A | 257 | |
1-Bromopentane | 130 | Ethane Sulfonyl Chloride | 177 | |
1-Chloroethyl Chloroformate | 118 | Ethanol | 78.3 | |
1-Dodecanethiol | 143 | Ethyl Acetate | 77 | |
1-Fluoro Naphthalene | 215 | Ethyl Aceto Acetate | 180 | |
1-Methylimidazole | 198 | Ethyl Acrylate | 99 | |
1-Phenyl Ethyl Isocyanate | 55 | Ethyl Bromoacetate | 159 | |
2,4-Dichloro Fluoro Benzene | 143 | Ethyl Chloro Acetate | 143 | |
2,2,2-Trifluoro Ethanol | 77 | Ethyl Chloroformate | 93 | |
2-Fluoronitrobenzene | 116 | Ethyl Iodide | 69 | |
2-(2-Chloro Ethoxy) Ethanol | 79 | Ethyl isocyano acetate | 195 | |
2-(2-Thienyl) Ethanol | 108 | Ethyl Methyl Ketone | 78 | |
2-(2-Thienyl) Methylamine | 95 | Ethyl Nipecotate | 102 | |
2-(3-Amino Propylamino)-Ethanol | 250 | Ethyl Nipecotate | 102 | |
2,2,4-Trimethyl Pentane | 99 | Ethyl Oxalyl Chloride | 135 | |
2,3-Dimethyl Pyrazine | 156 | Ethyl Propiolate | 120 | |
2,3-Lutidine | 162 | Ethylbromodifluroacetate | 112 | |
2,3,4- Trifluoroaniline | 92 | Ethylene Di Chloride | 83.5 | |
2,3,Dihydro Benzofuran | 188 | Ethylhexyl Stearate | >200 | |
2,3-Benzofuran | 173 | Eucalyptus Oil | 174 | |
2,4-Dichloro Benzylamine | 83 | Euxyl K 100 | 100 | |
2,5 Norbornadiene | 89 | Fluoro Benzene | 85 | |
2,5-Bis(Trifluoromethyl) Aniline | 70 | Formamide | 210 | |
2,5-Dichlorothiophene | 146 | Formic Acid | 100.8 | |
2,5-Dimethoxy Tetrahydrofuran | 145 | Fuming Nitric Acid | 86 | |
2,6-Lutidine | 143 | Furfuryl Alcohol | 170 | |
2,6-Difluoro Aniline | 51 | Gamma-Butyro Lactone | 206 | |
2,6-Difluoro Nitrobenzene | 91 | Glutarldehyde 50 % Solu. (198595) | 187 | |
2,6-Dimethyl Aniline | 214 | Glycerol BP | 290 | |
2-Acetyl Butyro Lactone | 107 | Hexa methyl Disilazane | 125 | |
2-Acetyl Thiophene | 214 | Hexane | 69 | |
2-Aminomethyl Pyridine | 202 | Hexene | 64 | |
2-Amino Thiophenol | 70 | Hexylene Glycol | 198.3 | |
2-Bromo Ethanol | 149 | HF/Pyridine(70%) | - | |
2-Bromo Biphenyl | 297 | Hydrazine Hydrate | 118 | |
2-Butyl Alcohol | 99.5 | Hydrobromic Acid | 124 | |
2-Chloro Ethanol | 127-136 | Hydrochloric Acid | 50.5 | |
2-Chloro Ethyl isocyanate | 135 | Hydrogen Peroxide | 150.2 | |
2-Chloro Pyridine | 170 | Iso Butanol | 108 | |
2-Fluoro Toluene | 113 | Iso Butylchlororformate | 128.8 | |
2-Fluorobenzyl Bromide | 84 | Iso Butyraldehyde | 63 | |
2-Methoxy 1-Propanol | 130 | Iso Propyl Acetate | 89 | |
2-Methyl Tetrahydrofuran | 78 | Iso Propyl Bromide | 59 | |
2-Methyl-1-Butanol | 132 | Iso Propyl Chloride | 34 | |
2-MethylaminoEthanol | 150-159 | Isoamyl Alcohol | 132 | |
2-Methylfuran | 63 | Isonicotinaldehyde | 77 | |
2-Phenyl Ethylamine | 197 | Isoparaffin | 115 | |
2-Pyridinecarboxaldehyde | 181 | Isopropenyl Acetate | 94 | |
2-Pyrrolidinone | 245 | Isopropyl Alcohol | 82 | |
2-Tetra Hydrofuroic Acid | 128 | Isopropyl Myristate BP | 192.6 | |
3,2-Dimethoxy Propane | 81 | Isovaleraldehyde | 90 | |
3 4 Difluoronitro Benzene | 76 | Lactic Acid | 122 | |
3- Chloro Aniline | 230.5 | m-Chloropyridine | 148 | |
3-Methyl-2-Butanone | 94.2 | Methacryloyl Chloride | 95 | |
3,3-Dimethyl Piperidine | 136 | Methane Sulfonic Acid | 100 | |
3,3-Dimethylbutyraldehyde | 104 | Methanol | 63.9 | |
3,4 Dichloro Benzoyl Chloride | 242 | Methyisobutylketone | 116.8 | |
3,4 dimethyl Benzylamine | 178 | Methyl Acetoacetate | 169 | |
3,4,5-Trimethoxy Toluene | 117 | Methyl Acrylate | 80 | |
3,4,5-Trimethoxybenzyl Alcohol | 228 | Methyl Cellosolve | 124.4 | |
3,4-Dihydropyran | 86 | Methyl Chloroacetate | 130 | |
3,5-Lutidine | 169 | Methyl Cyanoacetate | 204 | |
3-Amino-1-Propanol | 187 | Methyl Formate | 31.5 | |
3-Bromo-5-Fluorobenzonitrile | 210 | Methyl Iodide | 42.5 | |
3-Bromoanisole | 210 | Methyl Propyl Ketone | 100 | |
3-Butyn-1-ol | 128.9 | Methyl Tert-Butyl Ether | 54 | |
3-Chloro Benzaldehyde | 213 | Methylene Chloride | 40 | |
3-Chlorobenzy Bromide | 109 | Mono Isopropyl Amine | 32 | |
3-Cyclohexene-1-Methanol | 80 | Mono methyl amine - 40 % | 48 | |
3-Methoxy Benzaldehyde | 143 | Monoethylene Glycol | 198 | |
3-Methoxy Thiophenol | 223 | Morpholine | 128.9 | |
3-Methoxypropyl Amine | 109 | N- Benzylethanolamine | 153 | |
3-N,N,Dimethylamino Acrolein | 279 | n Butyl Acetate | 126.5 | |
4 -Amino Butyric Acid | 60 | N N Diethyl Aniline | 217 | |
4-(Trifluoromethoxy)aniline | 73 | N N N N-Tetramethyl Ethylenediamine | 120 | |
4-Amino-1-Butanol | 206 | N, O-Bis Trimethyl Silyl Acetamide | 71 | |
4-Chloro Ethylacetoacetate | 209 | N,N Diisopropylethylamine | 127 | |
4-Chlorobutyryl Chloride | 173 | N,N-Diisopropyl Carbodiimide | 145 | |
4-Ethylmorpholine | 139 | N,N-Dimethyl Acetamide | 164 | |
4-Fluoro Acetophenone | 196 | N,N-Dimethyl Aniline | 192 | |
4-Fluoro Aniline | 188 | N,N-Dimethyl Benzylamine | 178 | |
4-Fluoro Nitrobenzene | 205 | N,N-Dimethyl Eththylenediamine | 104 | |
4-Fluorobenzoyl Chloride | 82 | N,N-Dimethyl Propylene Urea | 146 | |
4-Isobutylacetophenone | 107 | N,N-Dimethylformamidedimethylacetal | 102 | |
4-Methoxy Phenyl Acetone | 145 | n-Butanol | 117.2 | |
4-Methoxybenzyl Chloride | 117 | n-Butyl Amine | 78 | |
4-Methyl Acetophenone | 226 | N-Ethyl Piperzine | 157 | |
4-Methylthio Benzaldehyde | 89-90 | n-Heptane | 98.4 | |
4-Phenyl 1-Butanol | 140 | N-Hexyl Amine | 131 | |
4-Phenylbutyric Acid Nitrile | 97 | N-Isopropyl Aniline | 206 | |
5 Fluoro Benzaldehyde | 181 | Nitric Acid | 86 | |
5-Ethyl-2-Methylpyridine | 178 | Nitrobenzene | 210.8 | |
5-Fluoro-2-Nitrotoluene | 97 | Nitromethane | 101.2 | |
Acetic Acid | 118 | N-Methyl 2- Pyrrolidinone | - | |
Acetic Anhydride | 140 | N-Methyl Morpholine | 115 | |
Acetoin | 148 | N-Methylaniline | 196 | |
Acetone | 56 | N-Methylpiperazine | 138 | |
Acetonitrile | 81 | n-Pentane | 36.1 | |
Acetophenone | 201.7 | n-Pentyl Amine | 104 | |
Acetyl Chloride | 51 | n-Propanol | 97.4 | |
Acrolein | 52 | n-Propyl Bromide | 71 | |
Acrolein Diethyl Acetal | 125 | O Toluidine | 199 | |
Acrylonitrile | 77.3 | o-Chloro Benzaldehyde | 209-215 | |
Acryloyl Chloride | 74-76 | Ortho Phosphoric Acid | 135 | |
Allyl Bromide | 71.3 | Oxalyl Chloride | 63 | |
Aniline | 184 | o-Xylene | 138-143 | |
Anisole | 154 | Petroleum Ether | 30 | |
Benzaldehyde | 179 | Phenyl Acetone | 100 | |
Benzene | 80 | Phenyl Chloro Formate | 135 | |
Benzene Sulphonyl Chloride | 251 | Phenylacetonitrile | 234 | |
Benzhydryl Chloride | 140 | Phenylchloroformate | 74 | |
Benzoyl Chloride | 197 | Phosphorous Tribromide | 175 | |
Benzyl Acetoacetate | 275 | Phosphorous Trichloride | 74.2 | |
Benzyl Acrylate | 228 | Phosporous Oxychloride | 105.8 | |
Benzyl Alcohol | 203 | Pinacolone | 106 | |
Benzyl Amine | 184 | Piperidine | 106 | |
Benzyl Bromide | 198 | Pivaloyl Chloride | 105 | |
Benzyl Chloride | 175 | p-Methoxybenzyl Cyanide | 286 | |
Benzyl Chloro Formate | 103 | p-Methyl Benzaldehyde | 204 | |
Benzyl Ethyl Malonate - 85% | 138 | Propargylamine | 83 | |
Bis (Trimethylsilyl) Acetylene | 136 | Propionaldehyde | 46 | |
Bis(Trimethylsilyl) Trifluoroacetamide BSTFA | 145 | Propionic Acid | 141.1 | |
Boron Trifluoride Diethyl Etherate | 126 | Propionic Anhydride | 167 | |
Bromine | 58.78 | Propionitrile | 97.2 | |
Bromo Benzene | 156 | Pyridine | 115.5 | |
Bromo Ethane | 38 | Pyridine-4-Carboxaldehyde | 77 | |
Bromo Nitro Methane | 146 | Pyrrole | 130 | |
Bromochloromethane | 68.1 | Pyrrolidine | 87 | |
Bromoform | 149.50 | R(+)-Glycidol | 61 | |
Bromotrimethyl Silane | 77 | Sodium Methoxide Methanol Solution | 69 | |
Butyryl Chloride | 102 | Sulfuric Acid | 315 | |
Carbon Tetra Chloride | 76.8 | Sulfuryl Chloride | 69.3 | |
Chloro Acetaldehyde | 85 | Tert-Butyl Bromo Acetate | 50 | |
Chloro Acetic Acid | 189 | Tertiary Butanol | 82 | |
Chloro Acetonitrile | 124 | Tertiary Butyl Acetate | 96 | |
Chloro Acetyl Chloride | 105 | Tertiary Butylamine | 46 | |
Chloro Benzene | 131 | Tetra Ethyl Ortho Carbonate | 159 | |
Chloro Butane | 78.5 | Tetrahydro-4H-Pyran-4-One | 166 | |
Chloroform | 60 | Tetrahydrofuran | 66 | |
Chlorosulfonyl Acetylchloride | 71 | Thiazolidine | 72 | |
Chloro Sulphonic Acid | 151 | Thionyl Chloride | 79 | |
Collidine | 171 | Thiophene | 84.14 | |
Cyclohexane | 80.7 | Titanium Tetrachloride | 136.4 | |
Cyclohexanone | 155.6 | Titanium Isopropoxide | 220 | |
Cyclohexyl Isocyanate | 168 | Toluene | 110.6 | |
Cyclohexylamine | 134.5 | Tributyl Tin Chloride | 171 | |
Cyclopropane Carboxylic Acid | 182 | Tributylamine | 216 | |
Cyclopropylamine | 49 | Triethyl Ortho Formate | 146 | |
Decyl Oleate | 363 | Triethyl Phosponoacetate | 118 | |
Di Benzyl Amine | 300 | Triethyl Silane | 107 | |
Trimethylsilyl Trifluoromethane Sulphonate | 77 | Triethyl Silyl Chloride (TESCI) | 142 | |
Tri-n-Butylamine | 216 | Triethylamine | 89 | |
Valeronitrile | 139 | Trifluoroacetic Acid | 72.4 | |
Valeryl chloride | 125 | Trimethyl Chloro Silane | 58 | |
Valeryl Chloride (Pentanoyl Chloride) | 125 | Trimethyl Ortho Formate | 101 |
From the above mentioned listing, Petroleum Ether is highly volatile i.e., B.P. is 30°C,
So, Step - 1 is done.
Now, lets move to Step - 2.
Step - 2: Boil-up calculation,
This is somewhat crucial step in the whole process.
To generate maximum boil-up the utility in reactor jacket shall be Saturated steam,
Jacket pressure: 0.2 Kg/Cm2. Temperature: 105.1 °C,[Refer Steam Tables]
A 10 KL SS reactor will have an Heat transfer area of 19.8 Sq.m,[Use this Spreadsheet to calculate the HT Area - Learn it here]
Lets consider 70% occupancy, The effective HT area will be 13.86 Sq.m.
The boil-up shall be calculated based on the formula: M x Æ› = U x A x LMTD.
Petroleum Ether Properties:
Specific heat, Cp: 0.22 KCal/Kg.K,
Latent heat, Æ›: 85 KCal/Kg,
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LMTD calculation: (ΔT1 - ΔT2) / ln(ΔT1/ΔT2)
ΔT1 = 105.1 - 30 = 75.1°C, ΔT2 = 105.1 - 35 = 70.1°C,
LMTD = (75.1 - 70.1) / ln(75.1/70.1) = 72.46°C.
Lets consider U = 250 KCal/Sq.m.hr.K,
U x A x LMTD = 250 x 13.86 x 72.46 = 251073 KCal.
M = 251073 / 85 = 2954 Kgs.
So, the boil-up is 2954 Kgs.
Step - 2 is successful.
Lets move to Step - 3.
Step - 3: Condenser Capacity calculation,
Lets use the basic formula,
(M x Cp x dT) + (M x Æ›) = U x A x LMTD.
Lets calculate,
(M x Cp x dT) + (M x Æ›) = (2954 x 0.22 x 5) + (2954 x 85) = 254340 KCal.
For a condenser we'll consider U as 400 KCal/Sq.m.hr.K,
LMTD calculation: (ΔT1 - ΔT2) / ln(ΔT1/ΔT2),
Consider Chilled water as condenser utility,
Inlet utility temp.: 8°C, Outlet utility temp.: 15°C,
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What capacity motor is suitable for reactor ?ΔT1 = 30 - 8 = 22°C, ΔT2 = 30 - 15 = 15°C,
LMTD = ( 22 - 15 ) / ln( 22 / 15 ) = 18.276°C.
A = 254340 / (400 x 18.276) = 21.11 Sq.m.
Considering 20 % excess as safety, A = 21.11 x 1.2 = 25.34 ~26 Sq.m.
So, the required condenser capacity required for 10 KL SS reactor is 26 Sq.m
That's it......!!!
Hope you all got it, if any queries feel free to comment / message.
Comments are most appreciated........!!!
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How u r considering LMTD for Reactor Boil Up
ReplyDeleteDear ,
DeleteIts just a basic thing, when you are using Overall Heat transfer coefficient, it shall be accompanied by LMTD.
Regards,
AJAY K
Why cant we go with Universal Solvent?
ReplyDeleteDear ,
DeleteIn general Universal solvent is water, you can consider that too,
In pharma Universal solvent is Methanol,
If you consider Methanol, then it wont be appropriate, because the condenser that you consider shall be useful for performing only cleaning reflux, but not for distillations.
In the above post, i've considered the dead worst case, if the generated boil up can be condensed than automatically it can be useful for all solvent distillations.
Hope you understand, next time kindly comment with your name,
Regards,
AJAY K
Hi ajay, how to calculate the secondary condenser for the above problem. here the utility was -15.
ReplyDeleteRegards by
T.V.RAMANA
Dear Sir,
DeleteConsider 30% of primary condenser.
Regards,
AJAY K
let me know how can you are considered U as 400 KCal/Sq.m.hr.K, and how can you justify that considered valve is correct as you mentioned 10 kl reactor
ReplyDeleteDear Sir,
DeletePl follow the below post,
http://pharmacalc.blogspot.com/2016/05/overall-heat-transfer-coefficient-Calculation.html,
Any queries feel free to comment,
Regards,
AJAY K
Nice Ajay,but when coming to distillation under vacuum, I think condenser area is not sufficient.
ReplyDeleteRegards
B.MURALIPRASAD
Dear Murali,
DeleteCan you tell me in detail, what makes you feel like that, if any valid reason i'll extend my post, so that it can be helpful for many visitors.
Regards,
AJAY K
Hii ajay thanq for this blog and educating many of the people
ReplyDeleteI just had a simple formula for selecting a condenser
For example HTA is 20 m2
Take 30% of HTA and add to it. Now it may get approx condenser selection in a simple way.
Dear Bhaskar,
DeleteWhatever you mentioned is thumb rule and can be applicable for GLR's with graphite condensers,
For SSR as per the thumb rule, for reactors with capacity above 2 KL,
primary condenser capacity = 2 x reactor capacity,
Secondary condenser capacity = 0.3 x primary condenser capacity.
Regards,
AJAY K
By thumb rule how can we calculate the territory condenser capacity
DeleteHow to calculate addition time for reaction by using lab data
ReplyDeleteDear Karthik,
DeleteCompare both the Heat transfer parameters with time, i mean to say Time is inversely proportional to Heat transfer(U x A x LMTD).
So, Tlab / Tplant = (U x A x LMTD)plant / (U x A x LMTD)lab.
if any queries pl feel free to comment, even you can directly use the RC1e data.
As you have asked for comparison of lab vs plant, i've given you the relation.
Regards,
AJAY K
Give one example
DeleteDear Ajay,
ReplyDeleteIn one of our product after purification getting tap density above 0.7 limit is 0.3 to 0.7i.e always higher side, after reprocessing the same batch with same purification procedure with same cooling pattern then tap density comes within limit...so pls share thought on it...
Dear Mahesh,
DeleteUsually during purification stage the material composition will vary, so once try to compare the analysis at both stages, if there is any reduction in impurities in both analysis, then we may say that due to the binding / presence of the subject impurity in that stage lead to that particular tapped density, and then try to evaluate based on varying solvent quantities. It may solve the issue if the vary in quantities lead to subject impurity reduction.
Regards,
AJAY K
You name it and South Africa has an abundance of it.
ReplyDeleteDear Ajay,
ReplyDeleteOne of our product we have initially water content 6% after Jetmilling it goes down below 4% but limit is above 5 % ..
We are using 9 kg/cm2 pressure air with contain 0.0009 gm/m3 water content.
So please tell me that how to match both partial pressure so we can't lose moisture content below 5 % ..please give some calculations for the same...
Dear Mahesh,
DeletePerform the milling operation with cylinder nitrogen as utility instead of air, it may help you,
As per my knowledge the inlet air is not having enough equilibrium moisture, so the air is gonna absorb the moisture from the material during the micronization.
Regards,
AJAY K
Dear sir,
ReplyDeletePlease share latent heat and specific heat capacities of different chemicals.
Regards,
Pradeep
Dear Pradeep,
DeletePl find the required parameters in the below link,
http://pharmacalc.blogspot.com/2018/06/chemical-solvent-properties.html
Best Regards,
AJAY K
Is there boil-up rate you calculate is kg/s, if it is not? then how we will calculate chilled water flow rate for condenser in kg/s?.
ReplyDeleteIn this the area value is coming wrong.A is coming as 35 M2 after the calculation. But u are showing it is 21 m2
ReplyDeletelet me know as per above area 26 m2 single condenser but if i will go for two condenser can i consider the primary condenser 16 m2 and secondary condenser 10 m2 it applicable for above ot not ??? shall we divide the same ??
ReplyDeleteDear Rama,
DeleteIt wont work like that, What so ever i've calculated is applicable for primary condenser only, if you need to add a secondary condenser, it should be approx 30% of the primary condenser, i.e., 26 x 0.3 = 7.8 ~8 Sq.m of secondary.
Regards,
AJAY K
in my company using 3 condensers how to calculate heat transfer area for 3 condensers
ReplyDeleteDear Sir,
DeleteThats a hypothetical question, so the exact answer can be found at the engineering services person. Kindly consult them.
Best Regards,
AJAY K
You considered effective heat transfer area in step 2 calculation.
ReplyDeleteBut actually heat transfer area depends upon the type of jacket that reactor is having ? We need to consider jacket area instead of reactor heat transfer area na? Please clarify my doubt
What the meaning of LMTD ans delta T2.
ReplyDeletedelta T2 is temperature difference, LMTD is log mean temp. difference
ReplyDeleteDear Ajay,
ReplyDeleteIn step 3 LMTD calculation... why you are taking solvent temperature is same.... I think the temp should decrease... by using chilled water utility... then only it get condense... give me reply
Dear ,
DeleteIn the above calculation, i've considered the basic definition as main purpose of condenser is to remove the latent heat, hence i've considered the the vapour temperature twice. And in the sensible heat case, i've considered 5 degree dT, if required you can change that to whatever the extent we want.
Next time, comment with your good name please.
Best Regards,
AJAY K
sir,
ReplyDeleteis the above process is same if we are distilling the azeotropic mixture?
Dear,
DeleteIf we are trying to distill out azeotropic mixture we have to add another solvent to make one of the solvent as high boiling fraction, so that it will retain for sometimes if the additionally added solvent forms a low boiling azeotrope, then we have to add azeo box in the collection line.
Best Regards,
AJAY K
Hii Akki,
ReplyDeleteI think Step-2 is clear, Instead of adding all in one formula, i've splitted into two half's. if you can make me clear what you are not getting, i'll help you. reach me at pharmacalc823@gmail.com
Best Regards,
AJAY K
Hi Ajay
ReplyDeleteI have a doubt. We will have two heat capacities for any reactor. One is total heat required to raise the temperature and other is heat flux available with the reactor. So, my utility flow rate to be calculated based on total heat required or heat flux available. Even though i supply my utility flow rate as per total heat required, only whatever heat flux available that much only will be transferred. Please clarify.
Dear ,
DeleteThere will be two types of loads on utility, sensible load as well as latent load of the system. so we have to consider both of them. if we are able to maintain our reaction mass at reflux temperature then the heat that we supply will be consumed for reflux(i.e., latent load).
Hope you understand.
Next time, kindly comment with your good name plzz.
Best Regards,
AJAY K
Hello Sir
ReplyDeleteI want to know the percentage of solvent loss if the condenser cooling fails under reflux reactions.
TIA
Hii Deepika,
Deletein worst case it can be 100%, depends on the latent heat, lower the latent heat lower the loss.
Thank you sir for giving such a nice information.....
ReplyDeletehello sir, i am student of chemical engineering. i just want to confirm the map of equipment of API manufacturing plant.first reactants are poured in batch reactor along with the solvent and then after this all product is injected to crystallizer. and then after crystallization solvent is recoverd by lowering the pressure.and then this product goes to filteration and then it will then proceeded by Drying.and then in some case blending is provided.and finally our API product is ready to go for tabulation.and i just want ask that whether that reaction reactor contains condenser or not???
ReplyDeleteDear ,
DeletePl be noted, facility comes first, product comes next. So by default condensers shall be arranged, if its a hydrogenator / autoclaves, condensers are not mandatory.
Dear Admin,
ReplyDeletecan you provide the detailed calculations for condenser capacity calculation if distillation is under vacuum
Dear Admin,
ReplyDeletecan you please make the comparison sheet to calculate the operating cost and capital cost for Vacuum vs Atmospheric distillation set ups
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ReplyDeleteWhat will be the overall heat transfer coefficient for graphite with PTFE coating condenser.